In Albanian
Kontributi i arvaniteve ne perkushtimin e tyre ndaj Shqiperise dhe shqipetareve
Arvanites = shqiptaret e sterlashte te Greqise se sotme .
Teorite moderne greke paraqesin arvanitet si greke ,me ndergjegje te pa diskutueshme greke .
Patjeter qe argumentohet e kunderta qe Shqiperine dhe shqipetaret arvanitet e shihnin si shprese sepse ishin jo vetem
me ndergjegje kombetare Shqiptare,shume shpesh mjaft te thelle ,emocionuese por
dhe me nje perkushtim qe nuk e kane vete shqiptaret e Shqiperise .
Ketu mund te futen bazuar ne fakte te njohura per arvanitet lider, Anastas Kulluri
te cilin e vrane sepse kerkoi shkrimin e dialektit arvanit ne Greqi ,kjo kur greket shprehen se i
duan shume arvanitet ,bile pervelohen per ta,por pa gjuhen e tyre te nenes dhe babait ,nje dashuri me thike pas shpine .(vdis qe te dua)
Ne kete menyre greket festojne fuqizimin e news Hellenizmit dhe zhdukjen e arvanitizmit,strategji kjo qysh nga viti 1854 ,ku vete Paparigopulos pasi konstaton se dialekti arvanit po zmbrapset ,shton nevojen e zhdukjes se tij.
Pa asnje diskutim nje ndergjegje dritheruese na paraqet i madhi Theofan Muratidhi Noli nga Thraqi i Greqise .
Kuptoi rolin e Kishes Ortodokse Greke ne asimilimin e arvaniteve dhe u be armik i saj .
Themeloi Kishen e pamvarur Ortodokse Shqiptare ,u be dhe kryeminister i Shqiperise ,nje nga
mbrojtesit ushtare te Shqiperise dhe shqiptareve .Nuk duhet te thuhet parimisht por Fan Noli i urrente greket
dhe se bashku me te gjithe ata qe mbronin teorine se arvanitet jane greke .Ai kurre nuk shkoi ne
zonen e tij te lindjes ne Thraqi ,per te mos i dhene mesime atij,folesit te 13 gjuheve te huaja nga sherbetoret arvanite te grekeve se arvanitet jane greke.Atij nuk i mungonte ana ekonomike dhe politike. Mik i familjes presidenciale Kenedi ,nje mik i rralle i saj ,pasi perfaqsues nga kjo familje
kane ardhur dy here ne Shqiperi ne respekt te tij 30 vjet mbas vdekje(1965).
- Eshte nje arvanit i pa njohur shume si Jorgo Maruga nga Qefalonia .Rene vetem per arvanitet .
Burimet e mia per kete hero arvanit jane krejtesisht te pakta .
U be komunist qellimisht qe te mundte te vinte shpesh ne Shqiperi si arvanit.
Thone se u vra si komunist ,por e verteta nuk eshte keshtu ,pare ne aspektin se dhe arvanite te tjere lidere po vriteshin .Ne fakt burimet per arvanitet e medhenj ,para vendosjes se shqipetareve ne Greqi(vitet 90) jane te mbeshtjella me mjegull dhe tym ,ose jane te mire fshehura dhe nuk gjenden nga vete greket qellimisht .
- Per heroin tjeter Aristidhi Kolian dihen pothuajse te gjitha pasi ai u arrit te jeohej 10 vjet (1990-2000) nga shqiptaret.Vdiq vetem per arvanitizmin kur mund te jetonte fare mire ndryshe,bile dhe pa kokecarje.
Ashtu si dhe barba Vangjeli Liapi,anetar nderi i Akademise Shqiptare te Shkencave ,autor i 40 librave edhe
Ari Arvaniti sic i thoshin shqiptaret e kuptonin mjaft mire se vetem lidhja me Shqiptaret mund te shpetonte rrenjesisht cdo gje arvanite.
Pyetja eshte se ku dallon qendrimi shqiptar nga ai grek per arvanitet ?
Perse shqiptaret argumentojne se greket ne thelb jane anti arvanite?
Shqiptaret i duan arvanitet me shkolla Arvanite,rini Arvanite ,inteligjence Arvanite,gjuhetare dhe mesues Arvanite,prifterinj Arvanite ,
ashtu si dhe per ortodokesit e Shqiperise,deputete Arvanite ,parti Arvanite,Universitet Arvanit sic shkruante Kullurioti(1) ,etj.
Ju lutem te me thoni se pse greket nuk duan asnje nga keto, i luftojne
keto rreptesisht, i kane ndaluar me ligj bile jane paguar dhe me vdekje
Vdekja e Aristidhi Kolias ,dy kryetareve te shoqerise "Marko Bocari"(2),e gjuhetarit arvanit Cicipit me nje lloj kanceri te realizueshem nga mjeket ,cfilites ,tregon ne thelb luften e arvaniteve per ekzistence dhe luften e shtetit Grek ndaj tyre.
Sepse arvanitet dhe greket kurre nuk perbenin nje komb .Nese do te ishin nje komb ata do te flisnin nje gjuhe .
Mbasi ka shume spekullime ketu ne degen e gjuhes,une do te ironizoja ata qe thone se gjuha e Arvaniteve eshte gjuhe Greke (!!).Nese eshte keshtu perse greket nuk mesojne arvanitika ne shkolla. Perse nuk e lejuan greket mesimin e saj ne keto 200 vjet ?Mos valle nuk e lejuan sepse dialekti Arvanit ishte gjuhe Greke dhe greket nuk e donin kete,domethene gjuhen Greke ?
Pas ketyre qe shkruajta pyetja eshtese kush arvanit e ka radhen per te vdekur ? Sepse ata kurre nuk u dorezuan dhe nuk do te dorezohen .Bile lufta tani fillon ,pasi jane zgjuar,po heshtin duke me bere
te kuptoj se vetem nje shkendije e mundshme do ti ndaje heronjte e Greqise,nga pjesa tjeter jo arvanite dhe greket jane krejtesisht
te pa fuqishem te mundin arvanitet tane .Kete tregoi Qeratea (Keratea) e cila mundi shtetin e arvanitit Pangalo ,te
arvanitit Jorgo Papa-Nderu dhe te gjithe arvaniteve te tjere ,pasi dhe Karamanlis vjen nga zone arvanite .
Pergjithesisht greket i paraqesin arvanitet si kontribues per lirine e Greqise .
Ne te vertete ata ishin thuejse te vetmit qe rane per lirine e Greqise .
Keto si dhe popullsia arvanite( mbi 80%) e popullsise se Greqise(nje emer arvanit dhe ky) ,ne momentin e krijimit te ketij shteti,bile dhe ne fillim te ketij shekulli do te jene objekt i analizes
sime .Ne perkushtimin tim per arvanitet dhe te verteten mbi ta,per ata qe i kam jetuar dhe ndjej dhimbje,njesoj si nje dhimbje qe ndjen ndaj nje vellai, mendoj se tashme i erdhi koha kesaj teme krahas te tjerave qe aktualisht kam publikuar. Ne Thiva aty nga vitet 90 flisnin arvanitika me krenari te thelle .
Nuk do ta harroj lendimin e madh shpirteror te arvaniteve kur bisedonin ne arvanitika dhe te tjeret qe nuk dinin arvanitika jua kthenin ne greqisht
Kjo i mundonte shpirterisht dhe vecanterisht me te vjetrit .Sikur ju binte te fiket .Kjo shpjegohet vetem nga arsyeja qe dialekti arvanit ishte thelle ne shpirtin e tyre.Kush eshte pergjegjes per zhdukjen e tij ?
Jo nacionalizmi Grek ,por qeverite anti arvanite te gjitha koherave ne Greqi.
Gjithashtu dhe fjale shkencore qe mesohen vetem ne shkolla
i mundonin shume arvanitet, pasi detyroheshin te flisnin greqisht .
Ju lexuat qe une ju referova arvaniteve te vdekur per te vertetuar temen time .
Ka shume te gjalle dhe qe vazhdojne te shtypen nga greket dhe nese do tju referohesh atyre do tju hapesh telashe me shtetin dhe organizaten e arvanitit Mikaloliako "Agimi i Arte".
Sepse gjithmone ne Greqi mund te behet pyetja .Kush arvanit e ka radhen per tu trajtuar nga bluzat e bardha ?
Para se ta mbyll per sot me te madhin Niko Stylo ju jap nje citat nga i madhi Aristidhi Kolia - Ari Arvaniti(3)
"Και αυτοι-ως παντα-δεν μιλαγαν,μα εβλεπα τη πετρινη ματια τους,που ωρα την ωρα,μερα τη μερα σιγογιομιζε αστραπες και μουγνεφε και με φοβεριζε..«Τι καθεσαι κιοτη;...Δεν βλεπεις πο υγινε βαρυ το στρωμα που μας πλακωσε; Και οι γυφτοι ακομα μιλουν για λεβεντια,Μπεσα και Περηφανεια...και η φυτρα μας που τα ειχε ολα αυτα προσφαϊ,καπα και προσκεφαλι της,αλησμονιεται,σβηνει και χανεται...».
source https://www.facebook.com/groups/54100114782/doc/10151303600864783/
In Albanian
Dhe ata si gjithmonë, nuk flisnin , por unë shihja shikimin gur të tyre, që orë pas ore,dite pas dite ,ngadalembushej si vetëtimat ,enjtej dhe më frikësonte.
"Çfarë bën duke vëzhguar ?... Nuk shikon që u bë e rëndë shtresa që na pllakosi ?
Dhe ciganët ende flasim për Burrëri, Besë dhe Krenari... dhe embrioni ynë ,që i kish të gjitha këto rishtazi, "cape and the headrest", zinxhir lidhet, zbehet dhe humbet... ".
Nje perkthim i veshtire ky mbasi perdor fjale te perzjera dy gjuhesore(Shqip & Greqisht - une)
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Source
1 - ΤΟ ΑΡΒΑΝΙΤΙΚΟ ΖΗΤΗΜΑ / ÇËSHTJA ARVANITE
http://axhafaj2gmailcom-adriano.blogspot.com/2012/05/ceshtja-arvanite.html
2 - "Ju lutem mos ushqeni asnjë iluzion. Mua më vranë dhe kështu kanë vepruar edhe me dy kryetarët tjerë të Shoqatës së Shqiptarëve "Marko Boçari", të cilët vdiqën, edhe këta, nga "leucemia"
http://www.kavajaonline.com/forumi/topic/5027-aristidh-kola/
3 - Dhe ata si gjithmonë, nuk flisnin , por unë shihja shikimin gur të tyre, që orë pas ore,dita pas dite dhe vetëtima mbushej me ngadalë ,zmadhohej dhe më frikësonte.
"Çfarë bën duke vëzhguar ?... Nuk shikon që u bë e rëndë shtresa që na pllakosi ?
Dhe ciganët ende flasim për Burrëri, Besë dhe Krenari... dhe embrioni ynë ,që i kish të gjitha këto në rishtazi, "cape and the headrest", zinxhir lidhet, zbehet dhe humbet... ".
https://www.facebook.com/groups/54100114782/doc/10151303600864783/
Qeratea (Keratea) which could Arvaniti Pangalo state.....
source
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=204482589578169&set=pb.109166529109776.-2207520000.1353700365&type=3&theater
Në fund shkruan duke ju drejtuar shtetarëve grekë :"Do na hani mutin "............................................................................................................
After addressing writes Greek statesmen:"Will eat us crappy "
Ο πρόεδρος του συλλόγου Αλβανών *Μαρκο Βοτσαρι* Γιώργος Μαρούγκας
Σπανιο ντοκουμεντο από την Αλβανική τηλεόραση 1978 .Από 0000 έως 0025 .
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source
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKY2WGICefc
In english
Arvanites contribution to Albania and Albanians Arvanites = Albanians immemorial in Greece today.
Greek modern theories represent arvanita Greek conscience without Greek questionable. Definitely argued the opposite that Albania and Albanians Arvanites saw hope because they were not only Albanian national consciousness, very often quite deep, but exciting and a commitment to not have them Albanian. Here you can enter based on the facts known to arvanita leader Anastas Kulluri which killed because they asked dialect writing Arvanites in Greece, that when the Greeks say that the want more Arvanites, even boiled for them, but not the language of their mother and father, a love with a knife in the back.(Die without love) In this way the Greeks celebrate the empowerment of news Hellenizmit and eradicating arvanitizmit, this strategy since 1854, where self Paparigopulos after it determines that Arvanites dialect retreating, increases the need for its disappearance. No doubt a thrilling consciousness presents us the greatest Theophanes Muratidhi Noli Thraqi Greece. Understood the role of the Greek Orthodox Church in the assimilation of Arvanites and became its enemy. Established independent Albanian Orthodox Church, became prime minister of Albania, one of the Albania and Albanian soldiers defenders. Should not be said in principle but Fan Noli hated Greeks and together with all those who defend the theory that Arvanites are Greeks. He never went to the area of his birth in Thraqi, not giving him lessons 13 foreign language speakers of the servants Arvanit the Greeks that Arvanites are Greeks. He does not lack the economic and political. Kennedy presidential family friend, a friend of her rare as representative of the family came twice in Albania in respect of his 30 years after the death (1965). - It's a Arvanit unknown, much like George Maruga Qefalonia. Dropped only Arvanites. My sources for this hero Arvanites are completely insignificant. Became a communist intentionally to defeat often came in Albania as Arvanites. Say was killed as a communist, but the truth is not so, the first aspect that and other Arvanit leader being killed. Indeed the resources arvanita the greatest, before deciding that Albanians in Greece (90s) are wrapped in fog and smoke, or are well hidden and not found by the Greeks themselves intentionally. - For other hero Aristidhi Kolian known almost all after he reached lived 10 years (1990-2000) by the Albanians. Died only arvanitizmin can live quite well otherwise, even without headache. Like and barba Vangjeli Liapi, honorary member of the Albanian Academy of Sciences, author of 40 books Arvaniti Ari(gold)as saying Albanians understood well enough that only Albanians bond can escape fundamentally everything Arvanit.
The question is where he differs from the Albanian attitude Greek Arvanites?
Why Albanians argue that Greeks are basically anti Arvanit?
Albanians Love Arvanites , Arvanites schools, youth Arvanita, Arvanites intelligence, linguists and teachers Arvanites, priests Arvanita
as well as for ortodoks of Albania, MP Arvanites, party Arvanites, University Arvanit as writing Kullurioti (1), etc..
Please tell me why the Greeks do not want any of these fighting
these strictly, stopped by law and are paid even death
Aristidhi Kolias death, two heads of society "Marko Bocari" (2), Arvanites Cicipit linguist with a kind workable cancer by doctors, cfilites shows essentially Arvanites struggle for existence and the Greek state struggle against them.
Because arvanita and Greeks never constitute a nation. If we were a nation, they will speak a language.
After much speculation here on the branch of language, I would ironizon those who say that the language is arvanita Greek language (!!). If so, why not Greeks learn arvanitika in schools. Why not allowed her tuition Greeks in these 200 years? Does not permitted because Arvanit dialect was the Greek language and the Greeks do not like this, ie the Greek language?
After those who wrote the question is who Arvanites has turn to die? Because they never give up and will not be submitted. Bile fight begins now, as are smart, are silenced by making me realize that only a spark likely will divide the heroes of Greece, from the rest not Arvanit and Greeks are completely without strong to defeat our arvanita. this showed Qeratea (Keratea) which could Arvaniti Pangalo state,Arvaniti George Papa-honored(Ndreu) and all other Arvanites after Karamanlis comes from area Arvanit.
Generally Greeks present Arvanites as a contributor for the freedom of Greece.
Indeed they were thuejse the only who fell for the freedom of Greece.
These and Arvanit population (over 80%) of the population of Greece (a name Arvanites and this), at the time of the creation of this state, even at the beginning of this century will be the subject of my analysis.
In my commitment Arvanitia and truth on them, for those who have lived and I feel pain, like a pain that feels to a brother, I think now the time came for this topic along with the others that I currently published.
We Thiva there 90 years spoke arvanitika with deep pride.
I'll never forget the injury great spiritual Arvanitia when talking we arvanitika and others who did not know arvanitika lock turn in Greek
This spiritually tortured and particularly with the elderly. If you fall off. This is explained only by reason that Arvanites dialect was deep in their soul.
Who is responsible for his disappearance?
No Greek nationalism, but anti Arvanit governments of all times in Greece.
Also scientific words that are taught only in schools
afflicted many Arvanites, after being forced to speak Greek.
I read that I referred you arvanita dead to prove my thesis.
There are very alive and continue to be oppressed by the Greeks, and if it will help you to refer to them will help you open the trouble with the state and Arvaniti Mikaloliako organization "Golden Dawn".
Because Greece can always ask the question. Who Arvanites has turn to be treated by white shirts?
Before I close for today with the great Niko Stylo give you a quote from the great Aristidhi Kolia - Ari Arvaniti (3)
Source
1 - ΤΟ ΑΡΒΑΝΙΤΙΚΟ ΖΗΤΗΜΑ / ISSUE ARVANITS
2 - "Please do not feed any illusion. Killed me and the same happened with the other two heads of the Association of Albanian" Marko Boçari "who died, also from" leukemia "
3 - And they as always, did not speak, but I see their stone viewing, hour after hour, day after day, slowly filled as lightning ,swollen and intimidate.
"What makes watching? ... It looks that became heavy layer that embraced us?
And gypsies are still talking about
Manhood, Jove and Pride ... Our embryo that had all these newly "cape and the headrest", linked chain, fades and loses ... ".
A difficult translation that after words mixed uses bilingual (Albanian & Greek - I)
"What makes watching? ... It looks that became heavy layer that embraced us?
And gypsies are still talking about
Manhood, Jove and Pride ... Our embryo that had all these newly "cape and the headrest", linked chain, fades and loses ... ".
A difficult translation that after words mixed uses bilingual (Albanian & Greek - I)
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